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On God and round squares

Mon Feb 11, 2008 02:04:43 AM by Travis

Brock and I were talking about religion today, which despite my being basically agnostic (or perhaps because of it) I always find to be a fascinating topic. As we were talking about it, an old question that I used to hear a lot in high school popped into my mind: "Could God create a stone so heavy that even he could not lift it?"

The answer, of course, is no. Here's why.

Let me rephrase the question as such: "Could God create a perfectly round square?" Now, the answer is obvious; of course he could not. The very concept of a perfectly round square is utter nonsense. You can string together the words and make them sound somewhat reasonable, but the concepts of "round" and "square" cannot be combined in any sensible fashion.

Just as a round square makes absolutely no sense, a stone so heavy that God cannot lift it also makes absolutely no sense. By definition, God is all powerful. Thus, the very concept of a stone he cannot lift makes no sense. And, just as he cannot make a perfectly round square, he cannot make such a stone.

This, of course, is the purely logical answer, based on concrete definition and irrefutable fact. If you ask a devout follower of any religion (and yes, atheism is a religion), then YMMV. Or then again, maybe not. I've never asked. Anyone want to chime in?

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or better yet, can god make a burrito so big he can't eat?!?!

By AndyMKC at Tue Feb 19, 2008 02:41:23 AM

I'd agree with your post right up until the point you state "and yes, atheism is a religion", which is in fact incorrect and, to follow in your trend of similes, is akin to stating "science in a religion".

Atheism is not a faith-based disbelief in omnipotent beings, it is the lack of the need for faith at all in anything that demands faith for its existence. As an atheist I don't "have faith" there is no god any more than I don't "have faith" there are no unicorns.

To put it another way: I don't believe in god because there's no proof of god. Faith has no role in that position. I also don't believe in unicorns because there's no proof of unicorns. Again, no need for faith. Would you also claim that everyone who doesn't believe in unicorns are in fact practicing a religion? I think probably not.

This article: http://www.nolanchart.com/article1423.html explains the difference far better than I can.

Regards
Chris

By Chris at Fri Feb 22, 2008 05:50:11 PM

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